{"id":138,"date":"2012-08-02T13:07:40","date_gmt":"2012-08-02T19:07:40","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/zenmagnets.com\/?p=138"},"modified":"2012-08-02T13:07:40","modified_gmt":"2012-08-02T19:07:40","slug":"re-your-letter-requesting-us-to-shut-down","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/zenmagnets.com\/testing2\/public-releases\/re-your-letter-requesting-us-to-shut-down\/","title":{"rendered":"8\/2012 RE: Your letter requesting us to shut down"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span class=\"reddit_button\" style=\"color: grey;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/technology\/comments\/xinx7\/zen_magnets_caused_0_injuries_is_now_the_second\/\" target=\"http:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/technology\/comments\/xinx7\/zen_magnets_caused_0_injuries_is_now_the_second\/\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"height: 2.3ex; vertical-align: top; margin-right: 1ex;\" src=\"\/\/www.redditstatic.com\/spreddit1.gif\" alt=\"\" \/><\/a>1687 points on <a style=\"color: #369; text-decoration: none;\" href=\"http:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/technology\/comments\/xinx7\/zen_magnets_caused_0_injuries_is_now_the_second\/\" target=\"_parent\">reddit<\/a>. <\/span><\/p>\n<h2 style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">If you would like to help stop the magnet prohibition, please go to\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/savemagnets.com\/\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">savemagnets.com.<\/span><\/a><\/span><\/h2>\n<hr \/>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">8\/1\/12<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">RE: Your letter\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/neoballs.com\/images\/PDLetterJuly302012.PDF\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">requesting us to shut down<\/span><\/a><\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\">.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Dear CPSC,<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">\u00a0It&#8217;s unusual for a response to the CPSC to be open and transparent to the world. But these are unusual circumstances indeed. Let me start by reminding the CPSC and the public:<\/span><\/p>\n<ol style=\"text-align: left;\">\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\">1. We have had exactly ZERO ingestion incidents; our magnets have never injured.<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\">2. We have never referred to our product as a toy, or marketed as such.<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\">3. We have never put our product on toy shelves, where kids can grab them and shove them in the faces of their parents.<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<h1 style=\"text-align: left;\"><\/h1>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Obviously we are being punished because children have regretfully misused our competitor&#8217;s magnets, which are similar in size and strength to ours. On 6\/25\/12, the CPSC Commissioners who have been in office for\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.cpsc.gov\/cpscpub\/bios\/comchron.html\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">3 years<\/span><\/a><\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\">\u00a0decided they would launch an unusually harsh\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.cnn.com\/2012\/07\/25\/health\/cpsc-sues-magnet-maker\/index.html\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">administrative complaint<\/span><\/a><\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\">\u00a0lawsuit against Buckyballs; an action that hasn&#8217;t been pulled out of the CPSC arsenal for 11 years. Of over 2 million sets of Buckyballs sold in the past 3 years; there have been less than<\/span>\u00a0<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/usatoday30.usatoday.com\/money\/industries\/retail\/story\/2012-07-25\/buckyballs-ban\/56481316\/1\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">two dozen<\/span><\/a><\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\">\u00a0injuries. Buckyballs have always featured an ingestion warning. [Edit 6\/8\/12: Zen Magnets has now also recieved a CPSC Administrative Complaint. We are the\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.westword.com\/latestword\/2012\/08\/federal_agency_targets_denver.php\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">first company<\/span><\/a><\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\">\u00a0to ever recieve this prior to any record of injury.]<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Meanwhile, there will be about 100,000 injuries every year in the United States due to\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/hardballtalk.nbcsports.com\/2012\/03\/23\/joba-chamberlain-shouldnt-have-been-on-that-trampoline\/\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">backyard trampolines<\/span><\/a><\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\">\u00a0which require Emergency Room treatment, and trampolines\u00a0are\u00a0marketed to children. The United States has over\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><a href=\"www.journal-news.net\/page\/content.detail\/id\/557291\/Thousands-of-children-are-killed---.html\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">5,000<\/span><\/a><\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\">\u00a0childhood gun related deaths in a year. 30 American children will die from drowning in Buckets every year. And there have been more\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.skatepark.org\/park-development\/2012\/01\/2011-skateboarding-fatalities\/\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">skateboard fatalities<\/span><\/a><\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\">\u00a0in 1 year than magnet sphere related injuries in 3.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">In comparison, we have sold much less volume than Buckyballs, but magnitude of interest is comparable. If you go on Flickr which is the largest public photo sharing site, you&#8217;ll find 16000+ photos tagged with &#8220;Buckyballs&#8221; and 13000+ photos tagged with &#8220;Zen Magnets&#8221;. A search on YouTube shows 7150 videos of &#8220;Buckyballs&#8221;, and 4250 videos for searches of &#8220;Zen Magnets&#8221;. Despite these comparable gauges of interest, we have had exactly Zero ingestion incidents. By the way, if video views are any indicator of public reach, there are 7 times more views for the first\u00a0<\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=wOv0AkphLhE\" target=\"_blank\">Zen Magnets video<\/a><span style=\"color: #000000;\">, than all 86\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/uscpsc\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">CPSC YouTube<\/span><\/a><\/span>\u00a0<span style=\"color: #000000;\">Videos combined.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Not only is it unusual for the CPSC to target a product with such low risks, it&#8217;s unusual for the CPSC to target related companies that have caused no injuries.\u00a0It&#8217;s also unusual for:<\/span><\/p>\n<ul style=\"text-align: left;\">\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\">*The CPSC, in\u00a0<\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/i.imgur.com\/FcO66.png\" target=\"_blank\">citing<\/a><span style=\"color: #000000;\">\u00a0the dangers of magnets, to cite\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/sdmomfia.com\/2011\/12\/magnets-can-kill-your-child\/\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">sources<\/span><\/a><\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\">\u00a0that directly contradict the actions of the CPSC. The author said, &#8220;I don\u2019t want the magnetic balls recalled because they are not broken products.&#8221;<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\">*Your badged federal agent, field investigator [Name Redacted] who came to visit our office in May, to say that she &#8220;Found our case to be extremely irregular &#8230; [she] didn&#8217;t agree with what was happening to us, and that she was only doing her job.&#8221; By the way, don&#8217;t fire her for showing some humanity. She was just doing her job, and seemed like a cool person.<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><del>*Dozens<\/del>\u00a0Hundreds of essays to be written against your recall and stop-sale requests. And\u00a0<del>Hundreds<\/del>\u00a0Thousands to\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/savemagnets.com\/\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">petition<\/span><\/a><\/span>\u00a0<span style=\"color: #000000;\">in protest of the magnet prohibition.<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Considering the documented therapeutic, artistic and educational benefits, there must be\u00a0some\u00a0context in which magnet spheres can be sold, right?\u00a0 It would much be less ridiculous if the CPSC was trying to pass regulation that required some sort of age verification similar to video game sites and movie sites. Even if magnets were to be regulated like tobacco (which would still be crazy), it would be more rational than the full on request to &#8220;immediately stop manufacturing, importing, distributing, and selling&#8230; and recall all products&#8221;.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Nobody disagrees with the CPSC when a stroller that pinches fingers is recalled, or toys with mechanical defects are recalled, or a coffee pot that burns people is recalled. \u00a0But the current decision makers at the CPSC lack perspective in their current attempts to ban magnets.\u00a0The CPSC is an important arm of the US Federal government, it &#8220;Protects the public from<\/span>\u00a0<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.cpsc.gov\/about\/about.html\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">unreasonable<\/span><\/a><\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\">\u00a0risks of injury or death&#8221; from thousands of types of products. The keyword here is &#8220;unreasonable&#8221;, and while I agree that magnets are more dangerous than push pins or staples, the CPSC has shown no attempt to perform a cost-benefit analysis, and is fully failing its utilitarian duties. How much societal damage results from the slippery slope of absolving parents from the\u00a0responsibility\u00a0to read warnings? How many tax payer dollars have been wasted trying to minimize risks that are already insignificant? How much will the CPSC&#8217;s diminished public respect affect it&#8217;s organization&#8217;s safety goals?<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">We&#8217;ve complied with your invasive investigations, except for the part where you requested the names and addresses of each and every one of our customers. We checked with a few of our customers, and they were insulted that you even asked.\u00a0In your letter to us, you say that &#8220;The Staff will make every effort to work closely and cooperatively with the firm [to] protect the public while at the same time create a minimum burden and inconvenience for the firm.&#8221; How kind of you. It would certainly be a big burden if we couldn&#8217;t sell the only product we provide. All things considered, we are requesting that the CPSC &#8220;cooperate&#8221; by complying with the demands of the public petition at\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/savemagnets.com\/\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">savemagnets.com<\/span><\/a><\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\">, and retract the stop-sale requests sent to all magnet sphere brands and retailers. The solution to the dangers of magnets is education, not prohibition.\u00a0Even though there have been no ingestion incidents or injuries involving Zen Magnets, we&#8217;d love to work with the CPSC to ensure the continued safety of our customers if you have more reasonable requests.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">You know our numbers. We&#8217;re a small company, and we have no investors to back us. If you drew the litigative sword to our necks, we don&#8217;t have the resources to defend. The squeakiest gear gets the oil; if you slice us down, the last of our company&#8217;s efforts will be to siren this injustice before we fall.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Again, we have served millions of magnets and there have been exactly zero ingestion incidents. I urge those within the CPSC to think twice before applying the death penalty to innocent corporate citizens. See below for the growing list of letters submitted against the CPSC&#8217;s magnet prohibition.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">-Shihan Qu<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Founder of Zen Magnets<\/span><\/p>\n<h3 style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/savemagnets.com\/collected-public-letters\/\" target=\"_blank\">Edit: \u00a0Public Letters now moved to\u00a0Savemagnets.com<\/a><\/h3>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>1687 points on reddit. If you would like to help stop the magnet prohibition, please go to\u00a0savemagnets.com. 8\/1\/12 RE: Your letter\u00a0requesting us to shut down. Dear CPSC, \u00a0It&#8217;s unusual for a response to the CPSC to be open and transparent to the world. But these are unusual circumstances indeed. Let me start by reminding the [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/zenmagnets.com\/testing2\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/138"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/zenmagnets.com\/testing2\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/zenmagnets.com\/testing2\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/zenmagnets.com\/testing2\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/zenmagnets.com\/testing2\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=138"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/zenmagnets.com\/testing2\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/138\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/zenmagnets.com\/testing2\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=138"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/zenmagnets.com\/testing2\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=138"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/zenmagnets.com\/testing2\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=138"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}